Episode 14 - Thoughts

[Otto]

Wow, Katie was a cit. Ugh. I have another airtight case based on very solid evidence and obvious contradictions (think Paige) and both turn up cit. UGGGGHHHH.

[Otto]

I think the last spy is Darla, although she thinks I will never vote for her. I promised her I would vote for Samantha, although I am cutting back on that promise right now.

Darla pushed Samantha really hard, and forced me into promising I'd vote Samantha if Katie flipped cit. I don't see how Darla knew Katie was going to flip cit unless Darla is the last spy. Katie thought she was the last spy, and I'm inclined to listen to Katie here. She is never wrong after all .

Darla is pushing Samantha without a case and is acting overall very shady about the whole deal. I think this is Darla trying to force down another mis-lynch.

Anyway, I intend on making a large review and conclusions based on it.

[Otto]

Ok, here's an important thought.

If Delilah is a spy she simply wins the game. Darla is committed 100% to Samantha = spy, so if Delilah is the last spy, she can imprison me, exile Samantha and she wins.

Since I cannot do anything to stop Delilah from winning the game, and since I think Delilah is a citizen anyway, I will trust her 100%.

She's now a vital part of the plan, Operation Otto still tries to win this freaking game for the citizens despite colossus screw ups all game.

If Darla is the spy, as I think, then I have to congratulate her, for her exceptional performance. Well played. (At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Darla was a 24 year old male. She's played her character so exceptionally well).

[Otto]

Imprisonment Choices and what they mean:

Otto is Imprisoned (most likely scenario)

1. Darla - Points the most to her. Right now, she has Samantha pegged as the last spy. From Darla's perspective, Delilah is 100% committed to nailing Samantha as well. I'm the loose end right now who hasn't committed to it. If I am imprisoned, Darla is a high candidate for it.

2. Delilah - Points to her as well. If she is a spy, all she has to do is imprison me and then vote for Samantha and she wins the game. This scenario is out of my control, and thus I'm not going to pay any attention to it.

3. Samantha - Does not point to her at all. I am the only one defending her right now. If she is a spy, she will not imprison me.

Samantha is imprisoned. (unlikely scenario)

1. Darla - Points to her, mainly based on process of elimination. She imprisons Samantha, and she trusts that I will vote for Delilah instead of her.

2. Delilah - Doesn't point to her. She wins by imprisoning me, and voting Samantha.

Darla is imprisoned (unlikely scenario)

1. Samantha - Points to her, simply because Darla is the one calling for her head, and based on process of elimination, Delilah would not risk the game by doing this.

2. Delilah - Doesn't point to her. She wins by imprisoning me, and voting Samantha.

Delilah is imprisoned (2nd most likely scenario)

1. Darla - points to her somewhat. She imprisons Delilah and then trusts me to vote Samantha over her.

2. Samantha - points to her much more. She imprisons Delilah and then convinces me to vote for Darla.

Final Analysis:

Otto, Samantha imprisoned - Darla is a spy.

Darla imprisoned - Samantha is a spy.

Delilah imprisoned - 50/50 lean Samantha is spy.

If Delilah is a spy, she'd be stupid not to take her opportunity to win by imprisoning me and voting Samantha, so I'm not considering it in these analysis.

[Otto]

Right now I'm looking through and finding how often each living player has chats with dead spies that sound like a citizen talking with a spy. I think that will be intensely useful in finding this last spy. This is what I've found from Darla so far:

Either in spies5chat or private. I don't know.

(2:51:19 PM) spies5Darla: do you have any idea what Carly's doing and why she's pretending to be secretive?
(2:51:25 PM) spies5Darla: I'm not understanding this
(2:51:37 PM) spies5Cy: she has told me many, many times that she is new
(2:51:44 PM) spies5Cy: i think she's overcompensating for something
(2:51:56 PM) spies5Darla: she is not new.
(2:52:03 PM) spies5Cy: well then she lied about that
(2:53:27 PM) spies5Cy: well that just makes me feel better about suspecting her

(12:43:13 PM) spies5Darla: you said you asked cy things in private
(12:43:16 PM) spies5Subhi: spies5Subhi (02:18:19): The language used.
spies5Subhi (02:18:23): It is future tense.
spies5Subhi (02:18:57): I thought that you said "imprisonment" and meant Carly first Darla second
spies5Subhi (02:18:59): Sorry
spies5Cy (02:19:08): its fine

Sunday, May 4th

spies5Darla (7:51:23 PM): (1:41:05 PM) spies5Darla: again no. so you'll just have to tell me what you think here
(1:41:45 PM) spies5Angus: what would you like to know? Ive certainly said bunches about Otto before. He has generally played citizen but he keeps being wrong and actually defends spies
spies5Darla (7:51:39 PM): (1:42:49 PM) spies5Darla: just thing before returning to Otto
(1:43:25 PM) spies5Darla: 1 of the big issues on why peoke want to vote you out is because the last 2 things you have really 'said bunches' on were sophia in round 4 and carly in round 7
spies5Darla (7:51:49 PM): (1:43:35 PM) spies5Darla: it is now round 11 and you haven;t said anything since then
(1:44:04 PM) spies5Darla: you haven't really 'said bunch'es about otto so please do not act suprised when I ask you where you srtand now

Tuesday, May 6th

spies5Darla (11:40:19 PM): (6:48:08 PM) spies5Darla: you knew x had a role?
(6:48:41 PM) spies5Donnie: nope, im assuming he was the courier though?
(6:49:23 PM) spies5Donnie: because according to leticia courier is dead
(6:49:40 PM) spies5Darla: that's now what katie says
(6:49:45 PM) spies5Darla: you lying to me donnie?
spies5Darla (11:40:30 PM): (6:49:57 PM) spies5Donnie: no
(6:51:03 PM) spies5Donnie: i never knew xavier had a role, and thinking about it more i dont think he could of been the courier since leticia was planning on voting him
spies5Darla (11:40:51 PM): (7:34:12 PM) spies5Darla: either you knew about X or you did nit
(7:34:15 PM) spies5Darla: she says you did
(7:34:19 PM) spies5Darla: i want proof
(7:35:14 PM) spies5Donnie: i really think she is just is trying to find someone responsable for it, her act-11 question to me sure implys that she thinks I knew
spies5Darla (11:41:03 PM): (7:35:27 PM) spies5Darla: she says you told her you knew
(7:35:32 PM) spies5Darla: straigt out
(7:35:39 PM) spies5Donnie: WHAT!?
(7:35:55 PM) spies5Donnie: you have to be kidding me
(7:36:02 PM) spies5Darla: talk to her.
(7:36:22 PM) spies5Donnie: the last convo i had with her was on april 19th
(7:37:25 PM) spies5Donnie: thats complete bull, i never even talked with katie

spies5Darla (11:55:04 PM): (7:51:09 PM) spies5Donnie: look, if this is a trap you two set up, brilliant stuff, but I never knew of xaviers role
spies5Darla (11:55:10 PM): (7:51:59 PM) spies5Donnie: i mean a trap for spies, not a trap for cits
(7:52:14 PM) spies5Donnie: seeing if anyone agrees to telling her to role
(7:52:34 PM) spies5Donnie: but hey, not my business it seems

spies5Darla (1:48:18 AM): (5:37:15 PM) spies5Donnie: well, you have the viewers graces for your delilah suspicion :-D
(5:43:42 PM) spies5Darla: just the crazy ones!
(5:44:03 PM) spies5Donnie: its candy... crazy but a powerful force
(5:44:23 PM) spies5Donnie: i half expect her to waltz into the game and rip delilahs face off then promptly leave
(5:44:36 PM) spies5Darla: hahaha

spies5Darla (6:06:23 PM): (2:00:27 PM) spies5Donnie: well i know it wont mean anything, but the first part of that convo katie posted is pretty obviously faked. the writing style isnt me at all
spies5Darla (6:06:33 PM): (2:00:53 PM) spies5Donnie: lots of decent punctuation and capitalization in there
(2:01:31 PM) spies5Donnie: when have I ever been known for starting my sentances with capitals, or even using an apostrophie

[Otto]

Ugh, there are so many problems with Darla being a spy.

I'm setting it up with Samantha right now that I would vote Delilah almost no matter what. That way, Samantha imprisons Darla, and Delilah and I vote for Samantha, game over.

[Otto]

May 13, 2008 17:21:47 GMT -5 Otto said:

Candy nailed the spies 1 and 2. Angus and Katie. Well done Candy, and I'm thinking you are not the spy PI at this point. I think it's probably Claire, which makes sense because Katie says Claire, and Katie is never wrong.

So much for that. I'm back to Candy being the spy PI...


boggle.

[Otto]

I might as well just vote Samantha right now. The only way I could consider her not a spy is if I get imprisoned, but everything is out of my hands at that point.

Darla is imprisoned, Samantha is obviously a spy.

Delilah is imprisoned, Samantha is still more likely the spy.

Anyway, since I doubt people are going to be lynching me at any rate, I'm not going to announce my vote until Sunday.

I want the viewers, dead players, and remaining 2 players in the game to be nervous in anticipation. I don't want to spoil the fun.

Plus, if Darla gets imprisoned, it's obvious Samantha is a spy. I'm going to publicly announce I'm voting for Delilah, just to lull Samantha into false hope, and possibly give Darla a heart attack in the loser's lounge.

Darla broke character with me today. Even though I knew she was playing a character to some extent, it still was surprising. Her computer illiteracy was obviously false considering she nailed Angus going on invisible mode, and had no problem quickly finding posts and things from chats. Her nephew also seemed fake because some stories didn't seem to really add up. Besides that, she typed far too fast for someone as illiterate as she was. I didn't know how to explain her horrible typo's, as that seemed hard to do on purpose, but apparently those came with using her index fingers to type. Nicely done Darla. I wonder if my 24 year old male guess from a few days back was correct.

I knew she was playing a character, but it was still surprising. She got her point across fairly well that Samantha is the last spy though.

[Otto]

Ok, found some things that don't really add up with Samantha.

Samantha: Sorry, I'm at work and got busy for a moment

From the Samantha/Angus chat.

spies5Otto (2:38:28 AM): question. Your chat with Angus had no timestamps. Why?
spies5Samantha (2:39:28 AM): I was not at home and using a different messanger program
spies5Samantha (2:39:42 AM): I didn't fuck with the settings

Her other chats from work have timestamps. Why is she using a different messenger program this time?

There's also this from that chat:

Samantha: Hey, I have to go now. I've got lots of stuff to do, just taking a quick break. Thanks for the chat

Quick break? Her explanation of the chat:

spies5Samantha (2:41:25 AM): that chat was two hours I believe and that would take far more effort for one piece of something than I'm willing to devote to this game

They must hate her at work for taking 2 hour breaks.

I'm pretty sure Samantha is the last spy at this point. I hope she imprisons Darla, which would seal the deal and we can nail her on Sunday.

I'll be hitting that ho...fo sho.

[Otto]

Hahahahaha.

Nice, Samantha took the bait and nailed Darla. Time to vote her and end this game with a citizen win.

I just wish I wasn't so (long string of expletives) retarded and spilled the Katie story to Samantha last episode. I anticipate Darla flaming me heavily in her confessional for that misplay. At least it's going to work out in the end. If Delilah is the spy, she wins, congrats. However, I'm almost certain she is not.

Last episode Samantha mentioned that she never had a chance to vote for me, and I regretted that I hadn't had a chance to vote for her either. Those regrets will be short lived.

[Otto]

Wow, I almost forgot. Samantha being the last spy is kind of a bad thing.

This means I lose the wager to Darla.

This means I propose to Paige after the exile, at the Finale...

Yeah...that's really going to suck.

[Otto]

Sam, Delilah is going to vote for Samantha. Samantha is almost certainly going to be voting for Delilah.

I'm going to keep my vote hidden until the end. Mind reading my vote last for dramatic effect, since it's the deciding vote?

I intend on faking suspicion on Delilah in the burg to lull Samantha into thinking she's won, and then have her be surprised at me owning her face in the finale. This should be fun...

[Otto]

I think Han is going to be really disappointed when she finds out I'm not the last spy.

[Otto]

I had a long chat with Samantha. I hope I suitably put her in the position where she thinks I'll probably vote for Delilah but there's still somewhat of a chance I vote for her.

I want her to worry, but yet still think everything is probably going to work out. They say absolute power corrupts absolutely. I hold the power this exile, and I feel like I'm abusing my power by leading Samantha along.

[Otto]

[Otto]

hahaha, it took me far too long to make that in MSPaint.

I think it was worth it though. I seriously hope Darla is satisfied. I should never have made that wager...

[Carly]

Nice work, Brian. We all had faith in you.

[Cy]

*wistles* Dayum.

[Cy]

I'm always a big proponent of doing things that don't make sense as scum in games. I thought it would be better to get rid of Delilah. In fact, she was basically the best bet I think. Darla could have possibly made a strange comment, or done something that would make you think she was a spy. I don't know, but Darla was the obvious imprisonment choice, and I think everyone expected it since it fit in line with the thought that Samantha was a spy.

[Rachel]

Otto was the court jester of spies 5 with the way he was wrong every time. Even in the last episode he thinks a citizen is the spy and the spy is a citizen. HAHA

I agree with this Cy person that imprisoning Darla was stupid. My future husband and Otto both said in their confessionals that they suspected Darla. But maybe Samantha didn't have enough information to know that?

[Brody]

I wouldn't say imprisoning Darla was "stupid". There were other plays that could have been made but in the end it all would have led to the same thing.

Kind of like another spies game you're familiar with, right Rachel?

[Otto]

Jul 8, 2008 11:00:45 GMT -5 Rachel said:

I agree with this Cy person that imprisoning Darla was stupid. My future husband and Otto both said in their confessionals that they suspected Darla. But maybe Samantha didn't have enough information to know that?

I told Samantha repeatedly that I would never vote for Darla under any circumstances, even though Darla was the only other player I ever considered voting for.

[Delilah]

Jul 8, 2008 13:43:05 GMT -5 Otto said:

Jul 8, 2008 11:00:45 GMT -5 Rachel said:

I agree with this Cy person that imprisoning Darla was stupid. My future husband and Otto both said in their confessionals that they suspected Darla. But maybe Samantha didn't have enough information to know that?

I told Samantha repeatedly that I would never vote for Darla under any circumstances, even though Darla was the only other player I ever considered voting for.

That's the way to do it!