Episode 10 chatlog

[Katie]

(2:31:38 PM) spies5Otto: hi
(2:31:47 PM) spies5Katie: hi otto
(2:32:21 PM) spies5Otto: about the gov file. I'm just pointing out things as I see them.
(2:32:31 PM) spies5Katie: I think you're stretching
(2:32:33 PM) spies5Katie: really really bad
(2:32:49 PM) spies5Katie: when did I ever say that its carly's fault for the doc not saving anyone
(2:32:52 PM) spies5Otto: none of those points are big on their own, but the collective quilt is worth noting
(2:32:58 PM) spies5Otto: you never said that, other people did
(2:33:06 PM) spies5Katie: that's retarded
(2:33:23 PM) spies5Otto: I agree, but I'm wondering about Jillian's imprisonment
(2:33:41 PM) spies5Katie: how long was the chat posted
(2:33:51 PM) spies5Otto: 3 days
(2:33:54 PM) spies5Otto: maybe 4
(2:33:55 PM) spies5Katie: before you edited?
(2:34:02 PM) spies5Otto: between the chat posted and my edit
(2:34:06 PM) spies5Otto: maybe like 6 hours
(2:34:29 PM) spies5Katie: I know I hate wifom and shit, but you guys keep talking about it so I'm going to say it
(2:34:34 PM) spies5Katie: if I was a spy
(2:34:41 PM) spies5Katie: why would I let you all know that I knew jillian was a spy
(2:34:42 PM) spies5Katie: er
(2:34:43 PM) spies5Katie: cit
(2:34:51 PM) spies5Otto: 3:47 pm posted, 9:17 pm edited.
(2:35:01 PM) spies5Katie: I only told the doc
(2:35:10 PM) spies5Katie: and I brought that up to give you guys a pool of who knew
(2:35:16 PM) spies5Katie: I could've never told you
(2:35:20 PM) spies5Otto: I agree
(2:35:20 PM) spies5Katie: and you'd never know
(2:35:35 PM) spies5Katie: do you think that was a cit move or a spy move? Letting you know all who I knew who knew
(2:36:14 PM) spies5Otto: that's a cit move, definitely, in the same way that I consider me telling Darla I figured out her cit and editing the chat to be a cit move as well.
(2:36:29 PM) spies5Katie: yes and I agree, I'm never voting for you otto
(2:36:34 PM) spies5Katie: I think you're a citizen
(2:36:39 PM) spies5Otto: I am a citizen.
(2:36:42 PM) spies5Katie:
(2:36:43 PM) spies5Otto: :-)
(2:36:55 PM) spies5Otto: well, I don't plan on voting you any time soon
(2:37:06 PM) spies5Katie: I've been away for awhile
(2:37:10 PM) spies5Katie: sucks
(2:37:14 PM) spies5Otto: hopefully the way things play out, I wont have to at all.
(2:37:15 PM) spies5Katie: I'm never gonna catch up
(2:37:19 PM) spies5Otto: haha
(2:37:29 PM) spies5Otto: you probably don't want to catc up
(2:37:33 PM) spies5Katie: who have you talked to about the whole apollo being the doc thing
(2:37:35 PM) spies5Otto: I have no clue what's going on with Luke/Delilah
(2:37:54 PM) spies5Otto: well, you posted that Apollo was the doc
(2:38:01 PM) spies5Katie: did you believe it
(2:38:05 PM) spies5Otto: actually, yes I did
(2:38:07 PM) spies5Otto: :-)
(2:38:08 PM) spies5Katie:
(2:38:17 PM) spies5Katie: have you talked to anyone about not believing it?
(2:38:29 PM) spies5Otto: nope, everyone seems sold.
(2:38:32 PM) spies5Katie: k
(2:38:46 PM) spies5Katie: you want to know why I protected angu
(2:38:51 PM) spies5Katie: to make me a target
(2:38:56 PM) spies5Katie: a really big target
(2:39:04 PM) spies5Otto: for imprisonment?
(2:39:07 PM) spies5Katie: yes
(2:39:18 PM) spies5Otto: wouldn't that only hold if ANgus is a citizen?
(2:39:50 PM) spies5Katie: ye
(2:39:53 PM) spies5Katie: it would
(2:40:02 PM) spies5Otto: can you explain why you think Angus is a cit?
(2:40:05 PM) spies5Katie: I was 60/40 that angus was a cit
(2:40:19 PM) spies5Katie: mostly the bandwagon
(2:40:23 PM) spies5Katie: the doc and I came up with a plan
(2:40:28 PM) spies5Katie: if angus is a cit
(2:40:36 PM) spies5Katie: then I will be targetted tonight for imprisonment
(2:40:40 PM) spies5Katie: if I am a spy
(2:40:41 PM) spies5Katie: er
(2:40:44 PM) spies5Katie: if Angus is a spy
(2:40:47 PM) spies5Otto: freudian slip :-)
(2:40:51 PM) spies5Katie: oh shut up
(2:40:54 PM) spies5Otto: ahaha
(2:40:55 PM) spies5Katie: I've bee making slips all game
(2:40:57 PM) spies5Katie: if angus is a spy
(2:40:59 PM) spies5Otto: I know, me too
(2:41:04 PM) spies5Katie: then the exile protection is too good to pass up
(2:41:07 PM) spies5Katie: and they will keep me
(2:41:12 PM) spies5Katie: even though the "Doc" is gone
(2:41:25 PM) spies5Otto: hm...
(2:41:30 PM) spies5Otto: seems like a pretty good plan
(2:41:34 PM) spies5Katie: why thank ya
(2:41:49 PM) spies5Katie: hopefully you're not a spy
(2:41:53 PM) spies5Katie: and now you know the plan
(2:41:55 PM) spies5Katie:
(2:42:09 PM) spies5Otto: let me just forward this chat on to my spy buddies. Please hold.
(2:42:14 PM) spies5Katie: ok
(2:42:17 PM) spies5Katie: I gotta go
(2:42:24 PM) spies5Katie: real life and all
(2:42:34 PM) spies5Otto: yeah, I need to finish up some homework myself.
(2:42:36 PM) spies5Katie: just wanted someone to know in case I'm being screwed over is all
(2:42:40 PM) spies5Katie: and I trust you the most
(2:42:56 PM) spies5Otto: thanks. I really hope this works.
(2:43:07 PM) spies5Katie: by the way you probably know who the real doc is
(2:43:09 PM) spies5Katie: its pretty obvious
(2:43:14 PM) spies5Otto: with Darla + Leticia immune from imprisonment.
(2:43:27 PM) spies5Otto: since it isn't apollo apparently...yeah, I think I know.
(2:43:34 PM) spies5Katie: all right well I'm out
(2:43:40 PM) spies5Katie: I don't know if I'll be around for imprisonment
(2:43:48 PM) spies5Katie: talk to you tomorrow hopefully
(2:43:54 PM) spies5Otto: alright, see you later.
spies5Otto is typing...

[Katie]

(10:29:03 PM) spies5Xavier: Hi Katie
(10:37:29 PM) spies5Katie: hey xavier
(10:37:29 PM) spies5Xavier <AUTO-REPLY>: I am away from my computer right now.
(10:37:31 PM) spies5Katie: how are you
(10:37:38 PM) spies5Xavier: keeping busy
(10:37:45 PM) spies5Xavier: yourself?
(10:42:12 PM) spies5Xavier: everything okay?
(10:42:21 PM) spies5Katie: was on phone
(10:42:23 PM) spies5Katie: catching up
(10:42:24 PM) spies5Xavier: oh, sorry
(10:42:31 PM) spies5Katie: so maggie was imprisoned
(10:42:36 PM) spies5Katie: that's weird
(10:42:38 PM) spies5Xavier: big shocker there
(10:42:42 PM) spies5Katie: yeah
(10:42:49 PM) spies5Katie: why was maggie imprisoned
(10:42:55 PM) spies5Katie: was she on to something?
(10:43:00 PM) spies5Katie: she had a lot of suspicion
(10:43:05 PM) spies5Xavier: not a clue. This one is stranger to me than Jiselle
(10:43:21 PM) spies5Xavier: At least Jiselle wasn't suspected. Maggie was nearly exiled not too long ago
(10:43:31 PM) spies5Katie: exactly
(10:43:38 PM) spies5Katie: why waste an imprisonment
(10:43:53 PM) spies5Katie: unless the people we think are cits are actually the spies
(10:43:53 PM) spies5Xavier: I have no idea
(10:43:58 PM) spies5Katie: and maggie was the most cit to them
(10:44:20 PM) spies5Xavier: Either way, her imprisonment makes no sense to me
(10:44:28 PM) spies5Katie: ugh
(10:44:40 PM) spies5Katie: also apparently angus is exile immune
(10:44:46 PM) spies5Xavier: I was really hoping there would be an attempt on a higher profile player
(10:44:57 PM) spies5Xavier: yeah
(10:45:03 PM) spies5Xavier: people are foaming at the mouth to get to him
(10:45:05 PM) spies5Katie: I had nothing to do with that
(10:45:08 PM) spies5Xavier: haha
(10:45:12 PM) spies5Katie: I copied Katie to Donnie
(10:45:15 PM) spies5Katie: as you suggested
(10:45:16 PM) spies5Xavier: I know
(10:46:04 PM) spies5Xavier: I'd have to think everyone fell for our play. Otherwise, they probably would have come after one of us.
(10:46:27 PM) spies5Katie: here's the problem
(10:46:29 PM) spies5Xavier: I really thought I might go yesterday after Leticia, Darla, and Delilah were all safe
(10:46:32 PM) spies5Katie: if the spies thought you were dead
(10:46:37 PM) spies5Katie: why not me instead of maggie
(10:46:44 PM) spies5Xavier: right
(10:46:52 PM) spies5Xavier: that was the whole reason as to why we did what we did
(10:46:54 PM) spies5Katie: I was for sure thinking that we were going to block it
(10:47:01 PM) spies5Xavier: so they become bold and go after the tougher players
(10:47:18 PM) spies5Katie: I think the spies know apollo wasn't the doc
(10:47:29 PM) spies5Katie: or
(10:47:38 PM) spies5Katie: angus is a spy and wants to keep me around
(10:47:50 PM) spies5Xavier: I don't know.
(10:48:17 PM) spies5Xavier: If they really didn't buy our story, I should probably be out of the game right now. Unless I'm too buddy buddy with the wrong person as well.
(10:48:42 PM) spies5Katie: what if they know you're the doc, but they think you can self protect
(10:48:49 PM) spies5Katie: with my help
(10:49:07 PM) spies5Xavier: that would make sense
(10:49:23 PM) spies5Xavier: that's a lot of guessing on their part.
(10:49:35 PM) spies5Katie: think about maggie this way
(10:49:39 PM) spies5Katie: maggie was safe
(10:49:43 PM) spies5Katie: no way we would protect her
(10:50:03 PM) spies5Katie: they're scared of having their imprisonments blocked
(10:50:07 PM) spies5Xavier: so we need to start protecting the unlikely targets then?
(10:50:16 PM) spies5Katie: I don't know
(10:50:25 PM) spies5Katie: I think its going to be hard to predict who to save
(10:50:38 PM) spies5Xavier: You've been protected like half the time, not once have they made a play for you. So i wonder if we need to switch it up a bit.
(10:50:44 PM) spies5Katie: but I really do think they're trying not to have their imprisonments blocked
(10:50:44 PM) spies5Xavier: yeah, it is
(10:50:49 PM) spies5Katie: and that is why maggie is gone
(10:51:14 PM) spies5Katie: I agree though, I think they know you're alive and I'm perma saved
(10:51:21 PM) spies5Xavier: Who do you feel strongly as being a cit right at the moment?
(10:51:22 PM) spies5Katie: we should change it up
(10:51:30 PM) spies5Katie: you haha
(10:51:33 PM) spies5Katie: delilah
(10:51:33 PM) spies5Xavier: hehe
(10:51:34 PM) spies5Katie: darla
(10:51:46 PM) spies5Katie: samantha
(10:51:49 PM) spies5Katie: that's it
(10:51:51 PM) spies5Xavier: samantha?
(10:51:53 PM) spies5Katie: everyone else I suspect
(10:51:56 PM) spies5Xavier: she's such a hard read though
(10:52:17 PM) spies5Katie: she was really helping me with the beatrix thing, and I'm pretty damn sure that if beatrix was a spy, samantha wasn't
(10:52:23 PM) spies5Katie: they were definitely not on the same team
(10:52:55 PM) spies5Xavier: Did you mention to Otto that our story on Apollo wasn't quite real?
(10:53:13 PM) spies5Katie: He was putting a lot of pressure on me
(10:53:20 PM) spies5Katie: and I think he's cit for the most part
(10:53:25 PM) spies5Xavier: okay, because he asked me about it today
(10:53:31 PM) spies5Katie: what did you say
(10:54:02 PM) spies5Xavier: I told him the medic was still alive, but that was about it.
(10:54:20 PM) spies5Katie: do you think Otto is a spy?
(10:54:34 PM) spies5Xavier: Otherwise, he was gonna come out guns blazing I think, thinking you lied to him.
(10:54:48 PM) spies5Xavier: I have a hard time seeing Otto as a spy
(10:54:53 PM) spies5Katie: haha
(10:55:10 PM) spies5Katie: as I said, I told him because he was really going to push me
(10:55:12 PM) spies5Katie: and if he did
(10:55:14 PM) spies5Katie: then it'd out you
(10:55:20 PM) spies5Xavier: unfortunately
(10:55:50 PM) spies5Xavier: No, I really don't mind Otto knowing too much. Now if it had been Cookie...
(10:55:58 PM) spies5Xavier: Hehe
(10:56:01 PM) spies5Katie: haha
(10:56:05 PM) spies5Katie: what do you think of cookie
(10:56:30 PM) spies5Xavier: I see Cookie as being the best possible explaination as to why Maggie was exiled.
(10:56:54 PM) spies5Xavier: Maggie seemed to be the closest person to Cookie that I know of. She felt Cookie was a cit all the way
(10:57:13 PM) spies5Xavier: There's so much WIFOM then surrounding that situation its rediculous
(10:57:29 PM) spies5Katie: you think the spies imprisoned her to put suspicion on cookie?
(10:57:54 PM) spies5Xavier: Or it could be the exact opposite. If Cookie was a spy, why kill someone who had your back 100%?
(10:58:53 PM) spies5Katie: this is why trying to figure out what spies do is wifom
(10:59:04 PM) spies5Xavier: Hehe. It's rediculous.
(10:59:08 PM) spies5Xavier: Or, here's another one.
(10:59:34 PM) spies5Xavier: Maybe Maggie was killed so there could be a push for Otto, being the last remaining person alive who knew of Leticia's role before she was exiled.
(11:00:06 PM) spies5Xavier: But basically, no one knows but the spies
(11:00:08 PM) spies5Katie: ooh
(11:00:12 PM) spies5Katie: that's a good one
(11:00:18 PM) spies5Katie: thinking outside the box and all
(11:00:27 PM) spies5Xavier: yeah
(11:00:35 PM) spies5Katie: I know maggie was suspicious of otto as well
(11:00:43 PM) spies5Katie: so when people think "why was maggie imprisoned"
(11:00:52 PM) spies5Katie: the first thing they look at is who she suspected
(11:00:57 PM) spies5Katie: otto and angus were her top two
(11:01:24 PM) spies5Xavier: indeed
(11:02:27 PM) spies5Xavier: Otto has just done too many things in this game that scream cit to me for me to really believe he's a spy. Maybe he still is, but it's a big stretch
(11:03:05 PM) spies5Katie: I don't think I'd vote for him without some really good evidence
(11:03:20 PM) spies5Xavier: Same here.
(11:03:57 PM) spies5Xavier: The people I get pretty strong cit reads from are Darla, Otto, Delilah, Leticia, and you. Though if you're a spy, I'll be the dumbest player in the history of this game. Hehe
(11:04:09 PM) spies5Katie: oh right
(11:04:12 PM) spies5Katie: I forgot leticia
(11:04:14 PM) spies5Katie: my bad
(11:04:20 PM) spies5Katie: haha yeah
(11:05:22 PM) spies5Xavier: So looking at recent imprisonments, with Leticia looking like a cit to just about everyone, do you think she'll be targeted? Or will they go for a lower profile person again?
(11:05:52 PM) spies5Katie: ugh
(11:05:58 PM) spies5Katie: its so hard to figure out what they predict
(11:06:10 PM) spies5Xavier: well, it's just something to keep in mind.
(11:06:13 PM) spies5Katie: cause if they know you can't save yourself
(11:06:15 PM) spies5Xavier: no rush since we have an exile first
(11:06:20 PM) spies5Katie: or they believe the alternating thing
(11:06:25 PM) spies5Katie: then you might be next
(11:06:31 PM) spies5Xavier: if they know I can't save myself, I oughta be dead then
(11:06:40 PM) spies5Xavier: ooh, good point
(11:06:59 PM) spies5Katie: but there's nothing we can do about that
(11:07:24 PM) spies5Xavier: Well, let's hope they just believe that I'm a minor player in that whole deal.
(11:07:32 PM) spies5Katie: haha yeah
(11:07:46 PM) spies5Katie: maggie is a clear indication that either angus is a spy or the spies think you're alive
(11:07:57 PM) spies5Katie: problem is
(11:08:01 PM) spies5Katie: maggie isn't a doc hunt
(11:08:23 PM) spies5Katie: doc hunt would be you, finn, delilah
(11:08:38 PM) spies5Katie: maybe even samantha
(11:08:38 PM) spies5Xavier: no. Maggie would have claimed doc if she had been it
(11:08:46 PM) spies5Katie: right
(11:08:51 PM) spies5Katie: so they know she wasn't the doc
(11:08:53 PM) spies5Xavier: samantha I think is safe for now because she's gone
(11:09:04 PM) spies5Xavier: Finn... I don't know about him anymore
(11:09:22 PM) spies5Katie: I really do think that if he was a cit he would've been imprisoned by now for suspicion of being a doc
(11:09:52 PM) spies5Xavier: Looking back at a lot of what he's said. I don't think he's done a whole lot more than cookie has
(11:10:07 PM) spies5Xavier: I think so as well
(11:10:16 PM) spies5Xavier: I'm beginning to think Finn could very well be a spy
(11:11:21 PM) spies5Katie: hmm
(11:11:59 PM) spies5Xavier: Unfortunately, it's hard to express those concerns from where we are standing
(11:12:56 PM) spies5Katie: well
(11:13:02 PM) spies5Katie: I already posted what I said about finn
(11:13:07 PM) spies5Xavier: Same as with Cy for me early in the game
(11:13:46 PM) spies5Xavier: I wanted to go after him pretty hard after John was saved. But I couldn't, and I didn't have any other solid reasoning for doing so. Thankfully, Cy screwed up himself.
(11:14:09 PM) spies5Katie: hey
(11:14:17 PM) spies5Katie: your big ass list of suspicion lists
(11:14:24 PM) spies5Katie: look at the spies specifically
(11:14:30 PM) spies5Katie: who did none of them suspect
(11:14:38 PM) spies5Xavier: me
(11:14:40 PM) spies5Katie: otto
(11:14:43 PM) spies5Katie: donnie
(11:14:45 PM) spies5Katie: samantha
(11:14:53 PM) spies5Katie: cookie
(11:15:06 PM) spies5Katie: angus
(11:15:18 PM) spies5Xavier: I noticed Subhi specifically apologized to cookie in his last post
(11:15:34 PM) spies5Xavier: maybe making amends after finding out they were spy buddies?
(11:15:39 PM) spies5Katie: haha
(11:16:00 PM) spies5Katie: evie
(11:16:33 PM) spies5Katie: that's it
(11:17:12 PM) spies5Xavier: I just don't know about Angus
(11:17:16 PM) spies5Xavier: not a stinking clue with him
(11:17:26 PM) spies5Katie: I'm leaning spy now
(11:17:30 PM) spies5Xavier: He acts like he doesn't really care about the game anymore
(11:17:45 PM) spies5Xavier: Yet, he sure does whatever is within his power to stay in the game
(11:18:12 PM) spies5Katie: I have no idea how he got immune
(11:18:17 PM) spies5Katie: and hopefully he answers soon
(11:18:38 PM) spies5Xavier: probably gave it to himself
(11:19:08 PM) spies5Xavier: I think at this point in time, having Angus go will help out the most
(11:19:26 PM) spies5Xavier: Donnie, Delilah, and Luke are convinced without a doubt he's a spy


(11:21:57 PM) spies5Xavier: too many what ifs right now
(11:22:10 PM) spies5Katie: i was disconnected
(11:22:13 PM) spies5Katie: what did I miss
(11:22:21 PM) spies5Xavier: what did you see last?
(11:22:37 PM) spies5Katie: (11:19:26 PM) spies5Xavier: Donnie, Delilah, and Luke are convinced without a doubt he's a spy
(11:23:27 PM) spies5Xavier: yeah, that was the last thing from me
(11:23:31 PM) spies5Katie: ok
(11:23:33 PM) spies5Katie: finn as well
(11:23:37 PM) spies5Katie: leticia too I think
(11:23:56 PM) spies5Katie: if angus ever becomes exile possible
(11:23:58 PM) spies5Katie: he's going
(11:24:08 PM) spies5Xavier: Well, they've bussed spies before, I'm sure they'd do it to Angus too if it helped them out
(11:24:15 PM) spies5Katie: yeah
(11:24:25 PM) spies5Katie: I would expect any spies at this point to be on his bandwagon
(11:24:35 PM) spies5Katie: whether he's cit or town
(11:25:34 PM) spies5Xavier: it's an easy wagon to get on now
(11:26:54 PM) spies5Xavier: I think this exile will probably be Cookie going. With Evie and Finn getting a few looks.
(11:27:18 PM) spies5Katie: someone made a good case on why finn is a cit, I need to find it
(11:27:23 PM) spies5Katie: but at the same time
(11:27:30 PM) spies5Katie: he isn't imprisoned
(11:27:39 PM) spies5Katie: evie as well
(11:27:45 PM) spies5Katie: too many spies going after them
(11:28:03 PM) spies5Katie: but I agree
(11:28:08 PM) spies5Katie: I think Cookie is going this exile
(11:29:14 PM) spies5Xavier: yeah. Oh cookie...
(11:30:09 PM) spies5Xavier: you forgot me on your list
(11:30:28 PM) spies5Katie: I forgot you like I did leticia
(11:30:35 PM) spies5Katie: so confirmed I don't really need to think about it
(11:30:46 PM) spies5Xavier: well, it might be best to put me up there anyway
(11:30:57 PM) spies5Xavier: a little suspicion never hurt anyone
(11:31:09 PM) spies5Katie: haha

[Katie]

(2:11:42 PM) spies5Otto: hey
(2:13:42 PM) spies5Katie: hey otto how are you
(2:13:51 PM) spies5Otto: not bad
(2:14:36 PM) spies5Otto: so I'm guessing Angus must have protected himself.
(2:14:45 PM) spies5Otto: I didn't think that was possible.
(2:15:17 PM) spies5Katie: I think its a little weird he hasn't come out to talk about it yet
(2:15:20 PM) spies5Katie: its been what, a day?
(2:15:40 PM) spies5Otto: yeah, at least
(2:16:18 PM) spies5Katie: why has he not cleared it up
(2:24:13 PM) spies5Katie: so anyways, what's been going on
(2:24:22 PM) spies5Katie: besides angus looking really spyish
(2:24:38 PM) spies5Otto: not a whole lot really
(2:24:47 PM) spies5Otto: Angus, Cookie, Donnie, Finn, Samantha
(2:24:56 PM) spies5Otto: pretty sure the last 3 spies are in that group
(2:25:14 PM) spies5Katie: I'm pretty sure samantha is a cit
(2:25:17 PM) spies5Katie: the rest I agree
(2:25:34 PM) spies5Katie: samantha helped alot with beatrix and has been going at her all game
(2:25:44 PM) spies5Katie: I don't think they were aligned at all
(2:25:48 PM) spies5Otto: I would say Samantha is proably a cit, but I think she fits the 7th spy as well.
(2:26:15 PM) spies5Katie: The doc and I have talked
(2:26:19 PM) spies5Katie: and we're relatively sure finn is a spy
(2:26:37 PM) spies5Katie: finn we pretty much set up as the doc and fall guy, especially with his connections to carly
(2:26:39 PM) spies5Otto: it wouldn't really surprise me. What's the reason?
(2:26:48 PM) spies5Katie: since he never got imprisoned when the spies were doc hunting
(2:26:50 PM) spies5Otto: ah
(2:26:53 PM) spies5Katie: we're damn sure he's a spy
(2:27:03 PM) spies5Katie: on top of that
(2:27:04 PM) spies5Katie: maggie
(2:27:06 PM) spies5Otto: isn't that *gasp* wifom!
(2:27:07 PM) spies5Katie: why maggie over finn
(2:27:10 PM) spies5Katie: oh shush
(2:27:11 PM) spies5Otto: :-)
(2:27:27 PM) spies5Otto: yeah, maggie was a weird choice in my opinion
(2:27:29 PM) spies5Katie: here's what I'm thinking with maggie
(2:27:32 PM) spies5Otto: really surprised me.
(2:27:34 PM) spies5Katie: the spies think she is the most cit
(2:27:45 PM) spies5Katie: problem is
(2:27:49 PM) spies5Katie: I find other people more cit
(2:27:53 PM) spies5Katie: so what if those people are the spies
(2:27:59 PM) spies5Katie: and that's why maggie left
(2:28:16 PM) spies5Otto: at this point, I think the spies are hitting more "confirmed" people
(2:28:25 PM) spies5Katie: you think maggie was confirmed?
(2:28:34 PM) spies5Otto: to some extent, yeah
(2:28:40 PM) spies5Otto: based on the letter she sent to Beatrix
(2:28:43 PM) spies5Katie: I think the spies know the doc is alive
(2:28:51 PM) spies5Katie: and they hit someone that they think wasn't protected
(2:28:58 PM) spies5Otto: that might be true as well
(2:29:07 PM) spies5Katie: that's what the doc thinks too
(2:29:16 PM) spies5Katie: we had a long chat last night
(2:29:33 PM) spies5Otto: maybe they thought maggie was the doc?
(2:29:45 PM) spies5Katie: maggie would've claimed when she was up for exile
(2:29:52 PM) spies5Otto: yeah, good point
(2:30:01 PM) spies5Otto: Maggie probably wouldn't have voted to exile carly either.
(2:30:01 PM) spies5Katie: maggie was a doc hunt
(2:30:13 PM) spies5Katie: er
(2:30:16 PM) spies5Katie: maggie wasn't a doc hunt
(2:30:29 PM) spies5Katie: so either a) they believe apollo was the doc
(2:30:37 PM) spies5Otto: but if the spies knew the doc was alive, why wouldn't they doc hunt?
(2:30:42 PM) spies5Katie: or b) they don't believe it, but they believe the doc on the alternating theories
(2:31:12 PM) spies5Katie: I think they might doc hunt again for episode 11
(2:31:39 PM) spies5Otto: yeah, possibly
(2:32:00 PM) spies5Otto: they might also just hit someone who's practically confirmed, like Leticia
(2:32:13 PM) spies5Katie: they'd only do that if they thought the doc was dead
(2:32:26 PM) spies5Otto: yeah
(2:33:05 PM) spies5Otto: although keep in mind 3 people were immune to imprisonment. I'm very surprised they didn't choose you, to be honest, but it could be Maggie wasn't really their top choice.
(2:33:16 PM) spies5Katie: that's what I'm saying
(2:33:19 PM) spies5Katie: they didn't go for me
(2:33:24 PM) spies5Katie: I was like so sure they would
(2:33:28 PM) spies5Otto: yeah, me too
(2:33:31 PM) spies5Katie: so either angus is a spy and told them I was important
(2:33:34 PM) spies5Katie: or
(2:33:37 PM) spies5Katie: they know the doc is alive
(2:33:41 PM) spies5Katie: or both
(2:33:44 PM) spies5Otto: haha
(2:34:05 PM) spies5Katie: and another reason why I think finn is a spy
(2:34:10 PM) spies5Katie: why maggie over finn
(2:34:21 PM) spies5Katie: unless of course they think he's the doc
(2:34:30 PM) spies5Otto: well, not taking out Finn might be an indication that they think the doc is dead.
(2:34:51 PM) spies5Katie: me being alive means they think the doc is alive
(2:35:01 PM) spies5Otto: yeah, could also be the angus thing too
(2:35:14 PM) spies5Katie: so it's possible
(2:35:18 PM) spies5Katie: that the spies think the doc is dead
(2:35:24 PM) spies5Katie: but that means angus is pretty much confirmed spy
(2:35:38 PM) spies5Otto: maggie was positive Angus was a spy, you protected him...maybe Angus is a spy and trying to swing opinion over to his side.
(2:35:53 PM) spies5Katie: there's way too many people that think angus is a spy
(2:35:54 PM) spies5Katie: it wouldn't work
(2:36:17 PM) spies5Otto: it's possible, but Darla has been pretty big about being behind Angus as well.
(2:36:41 PM) spies5Katie: what do you think of darla at this point
(2:36:59 PM) spies5Otto: I'd be really surprised if she's a spy, to be honest.
(2:37:07 PM) spies5Katie: she keeps doing things that are so cit
(2:37:12 PM) spies5Katie: but then some stuff that is so spyish
(2:37:29 PM) spies5Otto: I'm just not seeing her as a spy from a behavioral point of view.
(2:37:47 PM) spies5Otto: but if she was a spy, she'd have to be spy 7
(2:38:22 PM) spies5Otto: or at least I doubt she's 5 or 6, considering she basically single-handedly kicked Beatrix from the council.
(2:38:58 PM) spies5Katie: weren't all the cardflipped spies part of the council
(2:39:02 PM) spies5Katie: so far
(2:39:18 PM) spies5Otto: not Cy/Subhi
(2:39:24 PM) spies5Otto: just Sophia/Beatrix.
(2:39:27 PM) spies5Katie: ok
(2:39:32 PM) spies5Katie: so two
(2:39:34 PM) spies5Otto: and Beatrix got kicked off
(2:39:44 PM) spies5Katie: good move on the beatrix for us woo
(2:39:47 PM) spies5Otto: haha, yeah
(2:40:08 PM) spies5Otto: I was surprised they didn't choose Sophia, but I'm glad they didn't, considering being on the council is why we caught her anyway.
(2:45:08 PM) spies5Katie: I don't like the idea of process of elimination for donnie and samantha
(2:45:13 PM) spies5Katie: donnie I suspect
(2:45:18 PM) spies5Katie: and samantha I'm pretty sure is a cit
(2:45:36 PM) spies5Katie: I think we can find better things than "process of elimination"
(2:45:37 PM) spies5Otto: yeah, that's why they were last in that list
(2:46:10 PM) spies5Otto: what about process of elimination do you think is bad?
(2:46:54 PM) spies5Katie: I think if we get to the point where we think people are confirmed cits and only one person could be the last spy, we should try and think hard about those confirmed cits
(2:46:56 PM) spies5Katie: sounds broken is all
(2:47:36 PM) spies5Otto: yeah. Nobody is ever truly confirmed
(2:47:54 PM) spies5Katie: I'm probably going to vote finn this upcoming exile
(2:48:00 PM) spies5Otto: but I'd be much more comfortable lynching Samantha at this point than someone like Leticia
(2:48:08 PM) spies5Katie: well yeah
(2:48:16 PM) spies5Katie: but what about delilah? or darla?
(2:48:24 PM) spies5Katie: or hell luke
(2:48:26 PM) spies5Katie: or evie
(2:48:58 PM) spies5Otto: If cookie is a spy, I'd be pretty sure Evie is a cit
(2:49:23 PM) spies5Otto: considering both Cookie + Beatrix voted for (at least Cookie wanted to) her in that really close exile
(2:50:09 PM) spies5Katie: I just have this feeling that the last 3 spies are going to elude us, and aren't retarded like the other 4
(2:50:29 PM) spies5Otto: yeah
(2:50:39 PM) spies5Otto: well, they are much better than the other four
(2:50:48 PM) spies5Katie: except maybe angus
(2:50:55 PM) spies5Otto: :-)
(2:50:57 PM) spies5Katie: haha
(2:51:09 PM) spies5Katie: I'm on the wagon now Too much wifom to ignore I guess
(2:51:14 PM) spies5Katie: and his ability
(2:51:17 PM) spies5Katie: to protect himself
(2:51:22 PM) spies5Katie: that's really suspicious to me
(2:51:43 PM) spies5Otto: sort of. I can't blame him for trying to stay alive though, regardless of his alignment
(2:51:46 PM) spies5Otto: the lack of explanation though.
(2:51:49 PM) spies5Katie: yeah
(2:52:26 PM) spies5Otto: delilah is really the only person not on that list of 5 that I think could be a spy as well.
(2:52:56 PM) spies5Katie: delilah/finn is a pretty doable scenario
(2:53:04 PM) spies5Otto: yep
(2:53:23 PM) spies5Katie: hell I could believe delilah/finn/cookie
(2:53:42 PM) spies5Otto: that would go to explain why Beatrix didn't respond to the letter she got
(2:53:59 PM) spies5Otto: none of her spy-pals were either online enough or realized that it might just be a good idea to respond.
(2:54:31 PM) spies5Katie: do you think beatrix is the one who came up with all her role and her responses?
(2:54:47 PM) spies5Otto: hm...
(2:55:00 PM) spies5Katie: or someone writing for her
(2:55:13 PM) spies5Otto: I'm not sure really
(2:55:33 PM) spies5Otto: the way she wrote the post sounds a lot like her other posts, so she at least penned it all.
(2:55:40 PM) spies5Otto: not sure if the idea was hers though
(2:55:45 PM) spies5Katie: heh
(2:55:53 PM) spies5Katie: what if all her posts were done by number 5
(2:55:56 PM) spies5Otto: I wonder if Subhi was in on the plan, or if they really did just frame him :-)
(2:56:16 PM) spies5Katie: twenty bucks says they framed him without letting him know
(2:56:20 PM) spies5Otto: hahaha
(2:56:28 PM) spies5Otto: that would be great
(2:56:38 PM) spies5Katie: I can't really imagine anyone being ok with that
(2:56:42 PM) spies5Otto: no wonder he was so pissed...haha
(2:56:56 PM) spies5Katie: I mean he was getting FoS
(2:57:00 PM) spies5Katie: but he wasn't "confirmed spy"
(2:57:14 PM) spies5Otto: not really. I was voting for him that exile pretty much guaranteed though
(2:57:25 PM) spies5Otto: based on that "Shizuka is a cit" post
(2:58:17 PM) spies5Katie: I hate that post
(2:58:21 PM) spies5Otto: hahaha
(2:58:23 PM) spies5Katie:
(3:16:11 PM) spies5Otto: I'm going to go get some food
(3:16:17 PM) spies5Katie: later
(3:16:19 PM) spies5Otto: later

[Katie]

(4:18:14 PM) Spies5angus: 'suspiciously' absent? :-(
(4:19:33 PM) spies5Katie:
(4:19:43 PM) spies5Katie: well it got up to 17 replies before you explained it to us
(4:19:57 PM) Spies5angus: I didnt have time to even go to the site. Sorry about that.
(4:20:01 PM) spies5Katie: same
(4:20:02 PM) spies5Katie: its ok
(4:20:06 PM) Spies5angus: last week was ri-fucking-diculous
(4:21:12 PM) Spies5angus: obviously I wasnt the only one. Most of you have exams I think but with me it was real life work and a guest visiting who started to get angrier and angrier if I mentioned the word "spies"
(4:22:09 PM) spies5Katie: I got a new boyfriend that wouldn't even let me touch the computer
(4:22:17 PM) spies5Katie: then I went out on a date and forgot about my vote
(4:22:18 PM) Spies5angus: haha
(4:22:23 PM) spies5Katie: work also has been crazy
(4:22:28 PM) spies5Katie: I work like 7 am to 8 pm some days
(4:22:36 PM) Spies5angus: well our real life sounds similar. Are you sure we arent the same person?
(4:23:48 PM) spies5Katie: let me check
(4:23:50 PM) spies5Katie: hold on
(4:23:52 PM) spies5Katie: nope :0
(4:24:04 PM) Spies5angus: lol
(4:24:27 PM) Spies5angus: thanks for protecting me that time and sorry you got "back pocket" slack for it.
(4:24:56 PM) Spies5angus: if it makes you feel any better Im under no illusions that I have any kind of svengali hold on you
(4:25:00 PM) Spies5angus: quite the opposite
(4:25:07 PM) Spies5angus: but Im here if you want me to answer any questions
(4:28:47 PM) spies5Katie: so what's the deal with being immune
(4:28:55 PM) spies5Katie: could you exile immune yourself the entire game?
(4:29:03 PM) Spies5angus: sadly no.
(4:29:08 PM) spies5Katie: oh
(4:29:12 PM) spies5Katie: when could you
(4:29:15 PM) Spies5angus: I have to rotate
(4:30:03 PM) spies5Katie: what do you mean
(4:31:41 PM) Spies5angus: do a different person each round. Im just one of the people I can do.
(4:31:50 PM) spies5Katie: ah
(4:32:01 PM) spies5Katie: so this next episode you wont' be exile immune unless I help
(4:32:12 PM) Spies5angus: this is correct.
(4:32:31 PM) spies5Katie: when is imprisonment anyways
(4:33:28 PM) Spies5angus: no idea
(4:33:55 PM) spies5Katie: well I'm pretty sure that Finn is a spy
(4:34:02 PM) spies5Katie: I would've voted for him this last exile
(4:34:16 PM) Spies5angus: meh. Im not convinced.
(4:34:26 PM) spies5Katie: well here's my reasoning
(4:34:27 PM) Spies5angus: I think Donnie's case on him is more Donnie crap
(4:34:37 PM) Spies5angus: Im looking at Donnie Otto and Xavier
(4:34:42 PM) Spies5angus: but what is your reasoning?
(4:34:42 PM) spies5Katie: apollo and I came up with a plan to make finn look as doc as possible
(4:34:50 PM) Spies5angus: haha
(4:34:52 PM) spies5Katie: so that he would get imprisoned and not the real doc
(4:34:58 PM) spies5Katie: and we also hate finn :
(4:34:59 PM) spies5Katie:
(4:35:06 PM) spies5Katie: he never got imprisoned
(4:35:12 PM) spies5Katie: I put in a rumor that finn was the doc
(4:35:14 PM) spies5Katie: someone else did too
(4:35:18 PM) spies5Katie: and someone put in apollo as the doc
(4:35:30 PM) spies5Katie: so the spies knew that apollo was the doc cause I can't really imagine someone putting those in
(4:35:43 PM) spies5Katie: and the people who knew what was up said they didn't put it in
(4:36:02 PM) spies5Katie: since finn is still with us when the spies were doc hunting
(4:36:11 PM) spies5Katie: he has to be a spy
(4:36:16 PM) spies5Katie: plus he has some shitty arguments
(4:36:31 PM) Spies5angus: you should post that case then. Have you?
(4:36:34 PM) spies5Katie: not yet
(4:36:43 PM) spies5Katie: I mentioned it in the doc thread
(4:36:50 PM) spies5Katie: but I didn't really put any effort into it
(4:36:57 PM) spies5Katie: I will though before imprisonment
(4:37:35 PM) Spies5angus: cool
(4:37:37 PM) Spies5angus: good idea
(4:38:43 PM) spies5Katie: anyways, what about you?
(4:38:45 PM) spies5Katie: who do you suspect
(4:38:57 PM) Spies5angus: Donnie, Otto, Xavier
(4:39:09 PM) Spies5angus: I could swing to Finn with a good case made
(4:39:17 PM) spies5Katie: Donnie has been lurking alot
(4:39:31 PM) spies5Katie: Otto is...I don't know, otto...I'm like 50/50
(4:39:40 PM) spies5Katie: xavier is getting suspicious from the whole doc thing
(4:42:49 PM) Spies5angus: how do you mean?
(4:53:02 PM) spies5Katie: well
(4:53:10 PM) spies5Katie: xavier was the only other one who knew who the doc was
(4:53:25 PM) spies5Katie: and apollo got imprisoned over like finn or X or delilah
(4:54:03 PM) spies5Katie: and then why maggie over xavier?
(4:54:19 PM) spies5Katie: maggie was a huge shock
(4:54:24 PM) spies5Katie: or hell even me
(4:54:28 PM) spies5Katie: why wasn't I imprisoned
(4:54:36 PM) spies5Katie: especially after outting beatrix
(4:54:39 PM) spies5Katie: when the doc is dead
(4:54:39 PM) Spies5angus: I have no idea. it seems weird to me.
(4:55:33 PM) spies5Katie: yeah
(4:55:39 PM) spies5Katie: these are the tings I've been thinking about
(4:55:46 PM) spies5Katie: especially since maggie could've gotten exiled
(4:56:07 PM) spies5Katie: ugh everyone's a spy
(4:57:01 PM) Spies5angus: thats what makes the game fun.

[Katie]

(4:01:35 PM) spies5Darla: hi Katie
(4:02:22 PM) spies5Katie: hi darla how are you
(4:02:43 PM) spies5Darla: good and you?
(4:03:04 PM) spies5Katie: tired house is clean, laundry is done and catching up on everything
(4:03:38 PM) spies5Darla: you are one step aheadof me, I still have laundry
(4:04:14 PM) spies5Katie: going to cici's soon
(4:05:00 PM) spies5Darla: what's that?
(4:05:52 PM) spies5Darla: ow long until you leave?
(4:06:09 PM) spies5Katie: 3 hours
(4:06:11 PM) spies5Katie: haha
(4:06:15 PM) spies5Darla: oh
(4:07:05 PM) spies5Darla: let's get down to business then
(4:07:11 PM) spies5Darla: why didn't you vote last time?
(4:09:37 PM) spies5Darla: helo?
(4:11:13 PM) spies5Katie: busy
(4:11:18 PM) spies5Katie: I got a new boyfriend and new job
(4:11:22 PM) spies5Darla: heh
(4:11:25 PM) spies5Katie: we were at the movies, and I came home
(4:11:30 PM) spies5Katie: and realized I missed the exile
(4:11:36 PM) spies5Darla: who would you have voted for?
(4:11:40 PM) spies5Katie: Finn
(4:11:45 PM) spies5Darla: why finn?
(4:11:46 PM) spies5Katie: I talked to otto and xavier about it
(4:11:57 PM) spies5Katie: well
(4:12:07 PM) spies5Katie: basically me and the doc set up finn to be the "obvious doc choice"
(4:12:11 PM) spies5Katie: he was never imprisoned
(4:12:22 PM) spies5Katie: we were protecting him
(4:12:36 PM) spies5Darla: there's 1 flaw with that that I can see
(4:12:40 PM) spies5Katie: ok
(4:12:43 PM) spies5Darla: let's say finn is a citizen
(4:12:52 PM) spies5Darla: then the rumors come out
(4:12:57 PM) spies5Darla: 2 say 'finn is the medic'
(4:13:04 PM) spies5Darla: the spies say 'did you guys write those?'
(4:13:09 PM) spies5Darla: the other spies say 'no'
(4:13:18 PM) spies5Darla: 'why would 2 citizens write that?' they ask
(4:13:25 PM) spies5Darla: 'to throw us off'
(4:13:28 PM) spies5Katie: ok but I did one of the finn rumors
(4:13:32 PM) spies5Katie: the doc didn't
(4:13:33 PM) spies5Darla: right exactly
(4:13:39 PM) spies5Katie: so someone else wrote the other one
(4:13:45 PM) spies5Darla: if the pspies themselves didn't then they know citizens did
(4:13:53 PM) spies5Darla: did X?
(4:14:00 PM) spies5Katie: xavier didn't no
(4:14:03 PM) spies5Katie: I asked him
(4:14:21 PM) spies5Katie: if he did though then he's lying
(4:14:21 PM) spies5Darla: so you and someone else randomly said the same person?
(4:14:28 PM) spies5Katie: someone also said apollo
(4:14:40 PM) spies5Darla: do yu know who
(4:14:43 PM) spies5Katie: nope
(4:14:47 PM) spies5Darla: neither do I
(4:15:11 PM) spies5Darla: i don't know why someone would write finn was at the same time you did if it wasn't X
(4:15:21 PM) spies5Katie: that's what I'm saying
(4:15:22 PM) spies5Darla: i'll ask him next time we talk
(4:15:31 PM) spies5Darla: holy smokes angus is on
(4:15:36 PM) spies5Katie: angus is confirmed spy fyi
(4:15:43 PM) spies5Darla: how?
(4:15:46 PM) spies5Katie: secrets
(4:15:51 PM) spies5Katie: shhh
(4:15:52 PM) spies5Darla: it says he been online for 4 hours
(4:15:54 PM) spies5Katie: I'll explain later
(4:15:55 PM) spies5Darla: what?
(4:16:00 PM) spies5Darla: now please?
(4:16:05 PM) spies5Katie: I need to talk to someone first
(4:16:18 PM) spies5Katie: apollo wasn't the doc
(4:16:25 PM) spies5Darla: katie
(4:16:32 PM) spies5Darla: may i ive you 1 piece of advice
(4:16:35 PM) spies5Katie: haha
(4:16:37 PM) spies5Katie:
(4:16:41 PM) spies5Darla: two
(4:16:42 PM) spies5Katie: you know me and my crazy ideas
(4:16:54 PM) spies5Katie: I only tell you because I'm sure you're a cit
(4:17:01 PM) spies5Darla: yes
(4:17:03 PM) spies5Darla: 2 things
(4:17:17 PM) spies5Darla: 1 if you imitate carly use caps and proper punctuation
(4:17:39 PM) spies5Darla: and 2 don't go spreading info around like that because there are still 3 spies left
(4:17:54 PM) spies5Katie: except that the spies already know, and its why I know angus is a confirmed spy
(4:18:02 PM) spies5Katie: or they guessed it
(4:18:06 PM) spies5Katie: one of those two
(4:18:09 PM) spies5Darla: how do the spies know? the real medic i think is still here
(4:18:14 PM) spies5Katie: because I'm alive
(4:18:19 PM) spies5Darla: i have not speculated this to anyone
(4:18:28 PM) spies5Katie: the real medic is still alive
(4:18:33 PM) spies5Darla: i guessed
(4:18:41 PM) spies5Katie: problem is
(4:18:44 PM) spies5Katie: otto guessed it too
(4:18:45 PM) spies5Darla: and i didn't say anything to them because i know ow paranoid he is
(4:18:47 PM) spies5Katie: and he talked to people about it
(4:18:51 PM) spies5Darla: he did??
(4:18:57 PM) spies5Katie: he said he didn't trust me
(4:18:58 PM) spies5Darla: otto or the medic?
(4:19:02 PM) spies5Katie: otto
(4:19:12 PM) spies5Katie: the medic is practically confirmed cit at this point
(4:19:21 PM) spies5Darla: otto never speculated this to me
(4:19:23 PM) spies5Darla: and
(4:19:30 PM) spies5Darla: he still suspects the person I think is the medic
(4:19:37 PM) spies5Darla: so are you sure he is talking about it?
(4:20:21 PM) spies5Katie: not anymore
(4:20:24 PM) spies5Katie: I talked to him about it
(4:20:32 PM) spies5Darla: otto says h thinks I am a citizen and otto never said a word to me
(4:20:44 PM) spies5Katie: hmmm
(4:20:57 PM) spies5Katie: I know he talked to donnie about not believing that apollo was the doc
(4:21:01 PM) spies5Katie: and that I was a spy because of it
(4:21:19 PM) spies5Katie: donnie asked me some questions
(4:21:22 PM) spies5Darla: did you see the ttanscript of it?
(4:21:28 PM) spies5Katie: actually no
(4:21:42 PM) spies5Katie: I'll talk to donnie
(4:22:38 PM) spies5Darla: so why does this confirm angus as a spy?
(4:22:49 PM) spies5Katie: I tell angus I think he is confirmed cit
(4:22:53 PM) spies5Katie: the spies think the doc is gone
(4:22:57 PM) spies5Katie: so free reign to imprison anyone
(4:23:07 PM) spies5Katie: I'm the only one with a role and everyone thinks I'm a cit
(4:23:15 PM) spies5Katie: I think angus is a cit and will help him to become exile immune
(4:23:22 PM) spies5Katie: and then
(4:23:25 PM) spies5Katie: I don't get imprisoned
(4:23:30 PM) spies5Katie: very interesting...
(4:23:38 PM) spies5Katie: unless angus is a spy
(4:24:43 PM) spies5Darla: there's 1 thing i am trying to find on him
(4:24:50 PM) spies5Darla: if i find it i will let you know
(4:24:56 PM) spies5Darla: but it's aong the lines of a slip
(4:28:20 PM) spies5Katie: ok